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insurance companies, whether you're in california, montana or new york, you're going to have, you know, going to have rates go up. the second things, used cars, same thing in katrina you have a whole bunch of cars taken off the market because they're not usable and all of a sudden used car prices go up, 10, 20, saw them up 20% reported last week and all the way across, diesel oil. we're going to see it across the state it's not just a northeast issue. >> brenda: gary k, what do you think of that? >> toby is absolutely right. wheneverou have shortages with an event like this, especially in highly populated area, lumber, building materials, we can run the gamut here. prices go higher and costs go higher to business and consumers and that will definitively effect an economy. especially still trying to get up. a very tough thing to watch. >> brenda: gary b. is it having an impact or limited and temporary? >> the latter brenda, yes. look, it's the less, less temporary and less limited, i think the closer you were to the northeast. so, people obviously on long island, new jersey are going to
and california because of the businesses were moving here because the labor costs are lower and-- >> taxes play a role in the unionization rate in my opinion, but-- >> but if you're looking at individual companies toby. >> i mean, the union jobs, i flew out to arizona on a union plane with union pilots. that's been there for 60, 70 yrs, those industries have shrunk and less planes, less workers, et cetera. >> i drove a rental car that was built by a company that's now two-thirds than it started out 30 years ago, so you can't make the case here in any shape or form that union labor and all the benefits and all the costs and all the inefficiency has anything to do with a stronger economy, factual. >> brenda: that's got to be the last word, thanks, guys. coming up, the white house putting out new res for the president's health care law. why the cavuto gang says it just puts the nanny state in your workplace. and that's at the bottom of the hour, but up here first, federal employees pleading with congress we've suffered the loss so leave our pay and benefits ane in the fiscal cliff costs. cliff cos
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